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Leaving the truth behind - 3/23/2009 9:17 AM ( #1 )
I know, it sounds illogical, but what sometimes seems like the truth can just get in the way.

What's present right now?
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RE: Leaving the truth behind - 3/23/2009 11:29 AM ( #2 )
Dear Wordless,
 
Please, could you explain what you mean by "truth", what is really true or what you are told to be "the truth"? The first one may be inconvenient but has to be accepted, the second may well get into the way of examining the evidence.
 
To me the present is "now", this very moment between past and future.
 
With every good wish,
Edda
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RE: Leaving the truth behind - 3/23/2009 11:49 AM ( #3 )
Well, I was thinking about it, like we are "supposed to" think (I don't know), anyway the thought just came up, regarding my original post that "I" need to find fault.

Why? Why do I need to find fault in anyone, anything, to be happy?

Is is happiness to find fault, does it create happiness, to elevate one's self at the expense of any other? I am objectifying here, as in the other person, or any other "thing" that causes "me" suffering. What am I, innocent, guilty, one or the other? Dualities begin to fade into Self, unless you use a brighter light. What causes that light to shine, I mean when it's getting darker, inside?
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RE: Leaving the truth behind - 3/23/2009 12:16 PM ( #4 )
Wordless,
No happiness can be found by finding fault or blame...with anything or anybody.
We all need to take full responsibility for ourselves...our thoughts, words and actions.
Someone may be responsible for causing you pain, but they are not to blame for your unhappiness. Only you can decide to be happy or unhappy about it.
 
"No-one can hurt us without our permission."
 
I don't know if this is what you are talking about?
 
Jude
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RE: Leaving the truth behind - 3/23/2009 12:21 PM ( #5 )
Dear John,

I should say, welcome back, since you haven't posted for a while!
 
You ask difficult questions. I can't tell you why you  have that need to judge. Your profession contributes to it perhaps, since you have to check and check again so that everything is right for your patients.

Perhaps we may feel a need to judge others to reassure ourselves that we are better than they are, or, at least, not as bad, or to put ourselves down and feed our feelings of inadequacy. Neither of these are helpful. I don't think judging makes for happiness!

Where does the inner light come from when darkness descends around us? I can't speak for anyone else. For me it is faith.

Love,
Edda
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RE: Leaving the truth behind - 3/23/2009 12:43 PM ( #6 )
For me, this inner light needs regular 'feeding,' whether that means prayer, meditation, mindfulness or just looking after our mental and emotional wellbeing. Looking within, listening to music, being in nature.
 
Often others will re-kindle the spark of inner light for us. We may be feeling in the depths of despair and someone might lift us up with a word or gesture. This happens a lot for me on this Forum.
 
Jude
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RE: Leaving the truth behind - 3/23/2009 1:10 PM ( #7 )
Hi,

I'm not the worst at it, judging that is... wait, see?! I have to compare myself to others I feel superior to, to make myself feel good. Aaaa!!!

There is nothing in this world that I can create without the aide of someone else. Here I am, living in a world of freedom, the freedom to pursue my dreams, which I have done and will do by the way, asleep or awake. But, there has to be more to all this, this life of fulfilled dreams.

 It's as if, what I don't want needs to be looked at, and I think that is most apparently seen from within judgments, which for me, are rather subtle, cuz I  am generally very quiet around people. So everyone thinks I am an angel. If so, I've lost my wings. Or have I?
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RE: Leaving the truth behind - 3/23/2009 8:55 PM ( #8 )
Hi Wordless,
I am reading the posts here. 

I have to compare myself to others I feel superior to, to make myself feel good

I had many teachers who, in class, would talk about judging oneself against the accomplishments, of lack thereof, of others.  They called it "being in competition".  for some, it is a deeply ingrained pattern, taught at an early age, that has helped them to succeed in studies and career.  But at some point hopefully we all realize that the patterns that we thought worked so well, are not what we want for our lives now.
 
In moving beyond "competition" type thinking, the first step is to figure it out. How can anyone release old learned behaviors or thoughts unless they are willing to go there.  Compasssion ! I stand in honor of anyone who desires to look deeply at their patterns.  I do not think any of us are pure angels, no matter what others may think.   But if people are calling us that, then we must be doing something right, even with our hidden flaws.
 
Compassion for yourself.   I do not think it makes you bad at all to be in judgement.  Nor do I think it should clip those wings that have touched some people.  The question you may want to ask yourself is where you learned it from.  Where did you learn to compare yourself against others?  Therefore to judge others, as well as yourself?
 
Compassion.  Did someone teach you this behavor?   I stand impressed that you are willing to see this and desire to move beyond it. 
 
Well, maybe some of these words feel right to you.  Take anything that makes sense.  I only offer my observations of myself and others.  You get to decide what fits for you self and circumstance.  Except, I do stand by recommending compassion for yourself !! Blessings, liliwings
No need to spend endless hours, days, weeks searching for the rainbow.  Open your heart and your eyes to see and know you are the rainbow you seek.  Rejoyce in the beauty of the co-creation of you.
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RE: Leaving the truth behind - 3/23/2009 10:01 PM ( #9 )
Hello liliwings,

I was at a benefit dinner tonight, and had to wait for some guests to arrive to direct them to the event, because they were late. And I sat on a bench, looking out at the parking lot. No one came for awhile, so I ended up watching leaves dancing in the wind. It was as if each leaf had a style of dancing in the wind. I could not help but feel that I was watching intelligence, as being active in dead leaves! I wanted to go out and pet them, like animals. Good thing I didn't, the guests had just arrived and were walking up to the building. I didn't talk about my leaf watch either, just left them behind me, the leaves. Not that IT matters, in leaves, does IT?
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RE: Leaving the truth behind - 3/24/2009 1:23 AM ( #10 )
Wordless, Sounds like you had quite an experience seeing beyond what the eyes normally see.  I ended up watching leaves dancing in the wind. It was as if each leaf had a style of dancing in the wind.  what a wonderful dance to witness!  Could these leaves have been showing you that each way of dancing was equally important to the other?  Was that perhaps a message?
 
 I could not help but feel that I was watching intelligence, as being active in dead leaves!  I think that Divine intelliegnce is surly in everything and everyone. No matter how dense or unlikely.
 
 I can understand why you would not want to mention your amazing experience with your guests.  Just left them behind me, the leaves. Not that IT matters, in leaves, does IT?  personally, I believe that the leaves would likely have been quite pleased that you were in recognition of their "intelligence", maybe even enjoying their dance and possibly message for you.   One thing I feel fairly certain of.  It does not matter that you left them.  After all, they know their divine, or higher  intelligence.  yes?   Congratulations on witnessing the dance of the leaves.  Sending light and blessings, liliwings
No need to spend endless hours, days, weeks searching for the rainbow.  Open your heart and your eyes to see and know you are the rainbow you seek.  Rejoyce in the beauty of the co-creation of you.
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RE: Leaving the truth behind - 3/24/2009 11:17 AM ( #11 )
liliwings,

Suppose I could answer the question, in the usual fashion, if it was a usual observation, and the expectation is to continue on with the same degree of experience of conditioning which brought us here, to this, altar. Oh well, so much for the usual, or use for that matter. The truth dancing in the leaves is far behind us now, and we have evolved way beyond that, unless you are a tree looking down on us, or as the sun reaching into darkness, we all see as feelings.

So, truths are recycled, like leaves in the wind, as a breath in and out of being, and leaving out what is "mine" and cannot possess, one dissolves into any other, provided there is any light to see, or darkness to pass.

There is the sun now, just came out on a cold, cloudy, windy day. No need for leaves or truth to take IT away. No need at all in light.
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RE: Leaving the truth behind - 3/24/2009 7:40 PM ( #12 )
I agree with these words. "No need at all in light."   Simple as that.  Blessings, liliwings
No need to spend endless hours, days, weeks searching for the rainbow.  Open your heart and your eyes to see and know you are the rainbow you seek.  Rejoyce in the beauty of the co-creation of you.

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