Exaggerated apophaticism

I am so afraid I need help (which is probably the case) that it is difficult to quietly stay with myself right now. I have to lie down and I can't.

 
Sometimes its essential to do some strenuous exercise at these times or at least a walk to calm the bodies nervous system. It can help us to calm down and release the tensions going on for us.
 
Since this article is relevant to your life experience. It is a trigger to your own life trauma experience. This is such a betrayal and you faced so much of this already. It is part of your on going healing process. To be able to build trust is a hurdle you must struggle with so much of the time. To find what for you is acceptable parameters in trusting your self and others. To be self-protecting yet still able to get trust built within your relationships with others. My heart goes out to you Fred as you are a survivor of such a soul destroying experience. I commend your constant efforts in healing this. The PTSD you must be dealing with as different triggers come up for you within your life. You are attentive to all of this and it will help you resolve this as it needs reflect to you. Be gentle with your self. Remember you have innate resilient qualities within you. I hope the support here helps you too.
 
Peace, Love and Joy,
Diane
 

Grateful to be here!
What a gift and connection builder!
Love and Gratitude,
Love who You Are

Dear Jude, Diane, Sparrow,
 
Thank you for these kind words and all the support you give me here. We'll meet some time in heaven!
Yesterday, the general repetition of the play was a success. Today I feel more at ease. There is a relaxed feeling at the back side. The process is going on...
Good to hear about all the benefits of yoga. I came across: http://www.ihtyoga.org/Faculty.html
Judtin O'Brien wrote on Christianity and Yoga...
I am interested in the benefits of the different postures. Can I find this somewhere?
Diane, what do you mean by PTSD -post traumatic stress...- ?
 
Warm regards,
Fred 
Diane, what do you mean

Dear Fred,
The best way to find out about the many benefits of Yoga Asanas is to buy a good book on the type of Yoga you are doing.
I learned the Iyengar Method and there are lots of books by him. I'm sure you will find many books on Yoga.
Meantime, there is lots on the internet.
I just found this:
http://www.yogajournal.com/basics/bpractice
 
http://www.iyengar-yoga.com/iyengaryoga/
 
http://www.iyengar-yoga.com/
 
Blessings,
Jude
 
 
 

Love is the only way

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=Yoga&aq=f

Love is the only way

http://www.christianspracticingyoga.com/expectations.htm
 
Fred

Dear Fred,
 
I couldn't use the link you provided, but I think I found it anyway! Is this the one?
 
http://www.christianspracticingyoga.com/index.htm
 
I'm pleased that Christians are at last seeing and accepting the value of Yoga,
 
Blessings,
Jude
 
 

Love is the only way

Thanks for the links. Youtube =) this Krisnamacharya in 1938 is really incredible!!!
What a balance, coordination, flexibility, graciousness...!
I am interested in more of such great masters.
Good day!
 
Fred
 

Did anyone of you read work by Paramhansa Yogananda?
Any suggestion?
Fred

http://www.tomryancsp.org/books.htm
 
Fred

Yes Fred I have read his "Autobiography of a Yogi" but it was many years ago and before I fully understood his spiritual messages.
Many of his quotes are very profound.
Probably if I read it now I would understand it better.
 
Jude

Love is the only way

http://www.tomryancsp.org/books.htm
 
I am so glad, dear Jude, I found this website.
I will certainly read http://www.amazon.com/Prayer-Heart-Body-Meditation-Christian/dp/080914056X/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1242311423&sr=1-6
Another question: what about your diet?
 
PAX,
Fred

Did anyone of you read work by Paramhansa Yogananda? Any suggestion? Fred

 
Yes! I have Fred! His autobiography and The Essence of the Bhagavad Gita plus I practrice sometimes with and x monk of SRF. Who is now married they have yoga studio and are both practicing ministers. I do go on occasion to his meditation gardens that are about 45 minutes from my home. I did a retreat with them (Soul Of Yoga) at Immaculate Heart Center in Santa Barbara...which was originally started by Catholic nuns....though the at this time none of them even the one sister (45 years) is not consecrated by the Catholic Establishment. They are however tied closely to the Catholic Churches in a wide area.
 
Actually one of my big take aways was from his biography...from his spiritual guru...God is Simple.  One of his attributes and callings was to blend the best of his world with the best here in America. Though there are so many important messages in his lfe story.
 
I really like the site on Christianity and Yoga you put up.

Grateful to be here!
What a gift and connection builder!
Love and Gratitude,
Love who You Are

Another question: what about your diet?

 

This is an interesting question!!
 
My diet is not as it should be, but when I was practising Yoga every day I found that it improved enormously. Somehow balancing the body/mind leads you to want to eat healthier foods.
Maybe it's to do with the actual practise of treating your body like a temple. If you care enough about it to exercise it properly, and balance yourself, it would be a natural process to choose healthier food, and also a healthier lifestyle.
I know most Yogis would say you should become vegetarian, but my acupuncturist confirms what I already thought, that my constitution requires and my body functions better when eating a moderate amount of meat. I can't digest pulses, raw vegetables, or eggs and can only eat a small amount of cheese and milk.
Yoga will retrain your taste for food...I think that's the easiest way of putting it.
 
Happy exploring!
 
Jude

Love is the only way

Dear Diane,
The lasting memory I have of Yogananda's book is the fact that Yogis can choose their moment of death!!
 
Jude
 

Love is the only way

Another question: what about your diet?

 
Are you exploring now the ayervedic diet Fred?
 
It is very interesting method and helps you learn about your self.
 
If you are their are some great books on it..One is Perfect Health by Chopra...it gives a pretty good test to find out your dosha..Pita, Vata and Kapha. And then revise your diet accordingly. Plus since your in a yoga class often times they will have workshops to help you gain insights on this area of ayervedic medicine. I personally love the essence of these words...you are what you eat....food is a medicinal..... One of the most teaching parts of the practise is to eat and actually be aware of what you feel like after your meals. It is quite telling once you take the time to really practice it. For me it showed how much we ignore certain innate senses we already have within us about ourselves. What foods...slow us down...What foods give us vibrancy....etc. When I eat organically I always feel better. When I eat well it last longer and my body does not crave anything. Certain foods cause sluggishness in our digestion system.
The agni (fire) of our digestion system causes all sorts of physical ailments and energy differences. Gosh I could go on and on about this subject and its ability to teach you about your self. 

Grateful to be here!
What a gift and connection builder!
Love and Gratitude,
Love who You Are

Jude,
 
Isn't that a powerful message...I do recall him saying something about the importance of what is going on consciously at that moment. What should be your focus if you prepare for it.
 
It brings to mind a quote...I just came across from the site liliwings shared I think...
We must arrive at death with these words: "God, here I am. All ends well. Thank You for the incredible, long, miraculous gift of life." from Robert Muller 
Sometimes when I contemplate some of the practises...I had thought about this though.....since I have a "direct line" and my faith.....says I am in God hands right now and as I would hope that if something sudden happened....I already am in the care of God....so...who knows...each perspective just adds to and enhances practices and makes you more self aware of the mystery of God...and the truth that even with Saints...and their devotional practices...and wisdom shared with us all we have to cultivate what calls to us uniquely and also collectively. For me I often try to stay connected with a prayer that I have asked for and keep that close...and apply teachings to this....and open to receive the answer I requested in prayer....even if my head, heart and spirit kind of say what??? Did I really hear what these words of wisdom and the practice is reflecting to me? If that makes sense to you....
Oh I think Yoganada's book is one of those books that is powerful...and that reading it more than once can be a very good practice....at different times in your life.
I can of pick it up now and then....and just read wherever the page opens to...
 
As with the bible and many other great spiritual works!
 
I don't want to be off track in this most important part of who I am.
So I hope it keeps me centered where I find that sense of "presence"
the gift of life. 
Oh I remember Yoganada's story  about one of his followers changing to a vegatarian and his friend is having some I think it was kind of depression issues....he tells him his body has become so eating meat in his life that it is reacting and so it goes his friend eats meat once a week and the problem clears away...
 
There is in my opinion....by what I have witnessed learned or read about....diet. No way in my common sense brain,  body and spirit a strong sense  that God is going to say no I am sorry you ate this way in your life so I am not going to accept you as my child and enter into my Holy Spirit!  You ignorant one????
Doesn't feel "omnipresent" to me.... So again I think its moving always to what you uniquely feel strongly about and what calls to you as you work your way to what brings you closer to union with God.
 
I think alot of stress and anxiety is often created when there is so much contradiction out and within on what is absolutely...infallible....
 
I believe there Is a sister...who they are trying to cannonize who actually went vegatarian to stop certain... What some would actually view as mystical experience...levatation...leading people from 10,000 miles away etc. because it caused such a controversy in her convent. The Book "The Lady In Blue"  is fiction though the author gives at the end the parts drawn from what is historically documented in the church.  Because of her dress the experts are having a time proving infallibly that its her and not the Virgin Mother Mary. These things are taken seriously and they don't just say ok....its  close enough when it comes to Sainthood.  

Grateful to be here!
What a gift and connection builder!
Love and Gratitude,
Love who You Are

Diane,
If it's true, that's so sad about the sister who tried to stop what must have been a natural God-given gift in fact!
 
It's all about fear. The church probably thought the devil was making her do it.
 
I agree that what we eat is not so important in the scheme of things. It's what suits us that matters, and what keeps us strong and as healthy as possible.
Eating consciously and ethically is important.
 
Jude

Love is the only way

Jude,
 
Actually by what the author represented it was her and also her sisters....too. She just couldn't take it anymore!
She chose to ground herself....and for all we know her mission was complete and she knew it. By what she did accomplish by the witnesses of her presence as they built Missions here in America.
 
Personally I think there is a significant reason why these types of things are rare....even in Sainthood...all across the globe...religious sects...etc.  And why even those who have this....gift....use it in the wisdom realm of spirituality as regards to their own physical body here. I don't think I am communicated that one very well but by what I know of you....I bet you get the sense I am trying to communicate to you.

Grateful to be here!
What a gift and connection builder!
Love and Gratitude,
Love who You Are

Dear friends,
 
The plays on Friday, Saturday and Sunday have been applauded. I was quite nervous at times, but some people thought I was playing since years, so this is a great support. It is something special to step into another role and feel the support of the group. I certainly go on with this.
However, I have been drinking alcohol after every play and together with my medication, this is not good! The pain in my chest was sometimes unbearable.
Nonetheless I have been doing my yoga and some meditation, but I also feel that this Pesso therapy (I start tomorrow) is necessary.
 
Greetings,
Fred

Dear Fred,
I'm pleased to hear your good news! It's always good to enjoy something and also to feel others have enjoyed it also.
 
Don't beat yourself up over the alcohol........tomorrow is another day, another chance to improve.
 
Jude

Love is the only way