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broken hearts... - 9/20/2008 7:19:21 AM   
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When I visit the place where we light our candles I usually click on other people's candles to see what their purpose is. Although I know that people all over the world are suffering (myself included certainly, especially in my younger years), as I begin to read of people's cares and concerns I feel the pain of all those broken hearts. I wish that I could ease your burdens and want to make the bad go away but I can't. I can only say that somehow, if you can look up at the sky or find one thing in a day that makes you ache with the beauty of it you may find grace, and a sense of being held by a compassionate power greater than yourself.
Blessings...Sparrow

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RE: broken hearts... - 9/20/2008 8:22:04 AM   
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you are a beautiful soul, sparrow, blessed with so much compassion. 

love to you,
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RE: broken hearts... - 9/20/2008 11:57:34 AM   
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Susie, you have already helped all those people with your love and compassion, and your sense of beauty which shines out.
When I can see that beauty I know there is hope and I will feel better, as, when feeling despair, we appear to live in a fog, and the beauty seems far away....nothing to do with us. That's how I feel sometimes, anyway.
I believe that is the purpose of the buzzards which I get such pleasure from. When I hear their voices my heart leaps, and no matter how down I am they will lift my spirits.

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RE: broken hearts... - 9/20/2008 3:44:17 PM   
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Dear Susie, I am touched by your compassion and care! Thank you for reminding us to open our eyes to the beauty all around us!
There is beauty in the little sparrows (!) hopping about and flying around unperturbed by the more showy cardinals.

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RE: broken hearts... - 9/20/2008 11:13:58 PM   
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Susie, thanks for your loving words and your compassion for the people who are hurting so much. You know sometimes we all have problems but you know if you get to looking around there is always some one that has more going on in their lives and is hurting more that we are at the time.
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RE: broken hearts... - 9/24/2008 7:54:23 AM   
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Years ago I was suffering terribly, and somewhere along the line, guilt settled in as well. Who was I that my suffering disabled me so, when millions and millions of other people have suffered and are suffering far more painful lives . . . the Holocaust, the Inquisition, Darfur, China, women in Iraq and Afghanistan, Asian children sold as sex slaves (do you know that Americans are the biggest customers?), the senseless and sadistic slaughter of innocent animals . . . what did my suffering count when held up to the obscene, immoral, dehumanizing suffering of these people? I never found an answer, and my suffering did eventually become relieved... but the suffering that exists in this world still hurts, deep inside. It is sometimes painful to look into the exquisite heart of a flower knowing of the ugliness and horror that is still happening all around us. I light a candle today, for all of these, that even in suffering they will feel a sense of Grace. And I will try to treat everyone I see today as my brother or sister.
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RE: broken hearts... - 9/24/2008 12:27:54 PM   
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Beautiful words, Sparrow. Don't forget though that all of our suffering is important to us, no matter how small or large.

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RE: broken hearts... - 9/24/2008 1:42:40 PM   
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Sparrow, I gladly join in your prayers for everyone who are hurting inside, may Love shine, heal and prevail in all things.
Namste
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RE: broken hearts... - 9/24/2008 3:06:14 PM   
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Dear Susie, I am touched by your deep compassion for all the suffering around the world. Being aware of it does help us to keep things in perspective and not focus on ourselves alone. However, as Jude says, we do need to acknowledge our own suffering which is very real to us. Through it we share in the suffering of others, our brothers and sisters.

I join you in your prayers,
Much love,
Edda

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RE: broken hearts... - 9/25/2008 5:55:37 PM   
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Sparrow,I'm sorry to hear that you suffered so much years ago. Thanks for sharing your story. Through your story, I'm sure that you are helping other people.
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RE: broken hearts... - 9/26/2008 6:39:22 AM   
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Thank you Jude...for your perspective.
I do feel that our suffering can help to forge our spirits, as steel in the furnace. Suffering does sometimes help us grow spiritually if we choose to allow that to happen. I do forget that sometimes. I did when I was in the midst of it, and I do when I see others suffering.

And you are right Edda that being aware does help us keep perspective. I feel that all of you in the forum are of the same mind or your wouldn't be here.

And thank you too Glenys . . . may Love shine.
with love and gratitude . . .
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RE: broken hearts... - 9/26/2008 12:16:34 PM   
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Dear Sparrow, yes, I do agree that our suffering moulds us and can help us to grow spiritually, but I think, what I meant to say was, no matter how minor our troubles may be, they are still our troubles and important to us. Of course others are suffering more than us at any given time, but it doesn't make our little heartaches any less hurtful. We need to be kind to ourselves as well as to others.

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RE: broken hearts... - 9/27/2008 10:14:30 AM   
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Hello Jude . . .
Yes, I think I understand what you were saying and I am coming to a place in my mind and heart and soul where I believe that we identify with our suffering as if it is a part of us. I think that maybe these beliefs make us suffer more because we take them personally. I do not think we are our suffering any more than we are our bodies or our thoughts or our clothes or our memories or our desires. That helps me to separate (for me) from my own suffering and not take it personally. We inhabit our bodies, we think thoughts, we desire clothes that make us look beautiful or at least acceptable, we desire that our parents or our husbands or children or friends love us, but none of these things are truly who we are. It is up to each of us to decide how much we want to invest in our suffering or our bodies or our thoughts or desires. I want my energies to be for others in my very small sphere.
My suffering isn't much in the grand scheme of things. It only counts in the energy I choose to give it. This is all very new to me. I can be there for the few other people in my life if I can give of myself with compassion and patience and understanding that I am just an instrument of a power greater than myself and be an ear and a heart for others who feel unbearable pain.
I get upset when someone does something that offends me or hurts my feelings, and yes, I have put my eggs in the freezer by mistake (they DO make excellent scrambled eggs), but they are not who I am. I believe the only way to get through the kind of suffering that really reaches down into the soul (it’s different for everyone) is to understand that it’s not really personal. I am not the suffering and the suffering is not me. And if I survive, I can feel blessed for what I have learned through it. If I don't, then I have moved beyond it.
I didn’t mean to go on and on Jude, because I value your insights, but I did want to share with you that I try not to diminish my own suffering, but do try to put it into perspective when I am able.
And yes, I do try to be kind to myself.
Thank you so much for caring . . .
with much love . . .
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RE: broken hearts... - 9/27/2008 12:43:58 PM   
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Hello Sparrow, I've just written a reply to you and there was a glitch in the system and I lost it! Urrrrr!!

I'll try and remember what I said now. Jude

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RE: broken hearts... - 9/27/2008 1:14:51 PM   
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Hello again Sparrow, that was very annoying! I wrote a long reply and the system wouldn’t let me post it until I had Logged in again. I’m writing this in Word for safety, and will cut and paste it.
 
Don’t ever apologise for “going on” as you put it. It’s great to hear other viewpoints, and I don’t disagree with anything you say, but I have a ‘gut’ feeling that you put others first (nothing wrong with that) whilst belittling your own needs. YOU are important and putting yourself first is not selfish…..far from it.
 
As a healer I have to be careful not to get too personally involved with my clients because, if I did, then I would become ill and unable to help anyone. I care deeply and passionately about them, and other friends and family of course, but have to be able to protect myself. I have a dear friend who helps everyone, but can’t distance herself, and gets so upset she makes herself ill. Then she calls me!  I have discovered I have, what I think of as a gift, to be able to ‘be there’ for others even when in turmoil myself. It’s tiring though.
 
Another aspect of this can be described quite well by explaining how I keep my own illness from people. (a very silly habit) I was recently feeling pretty ill and got upset that some family members were not only uncaring, but were putting extra pressure on me while I was ill. BUT I hadn’t told them I was ill, so how could they know??
My Son got quite cross with me when he found out because he thought I wasn’t looking after myself properly. Proof that thinking I wasn’t worrying anyone, actually worked against me.
 Children, even when adult, don’t like to think of their parents being ill because it frightens them, but if we don’t share with them the fact that we are unwell, it doesn’t give them the opportunity to practise being kind and compassionate themselves.
 
This brings to mind a bit of wisdom given to me by another dear friend, that “Giving and receiving are the same.” If we don’t graciously receive what someone gives us, even if it isn’t the gift we wanted, then we deprive the giver of the ‘gift’ of giving. So saying “thank you” and taking the gift, is our ‘gift’ to them.
 
There, now I’ve ‘gone on’ a bit too, and it got longer in the re-writing.
 
Blessings to you, Love, Jude

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RE: broken hearts... - 9/27/2008 3:13:22 PM   
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Jude, I identify with what you say about not telling your family, when you feel ill. I get migraine headaches but try to go about my day in a "normal" fashion. Of course, I may get impatient and grumpy, and my husband may take exception to it. How could he know how I feel, especially since he claims he has never had a headache in his life, if I don't explain it to him!

By the way, having to log back in before being able to post has happened to me a few times, usually if I had to interrupt for a time!

Have a great weekend,
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RE: broken hearts... - 9/27/2008 7:40:33 PM   
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Fifteen years ago my "Dad" passed away, today would have been his 83rd birthday. I put him in quotes because I found out sometime afterwards that he wasn't my biological father. My Mom struggled with being honest to me about the circumstances and it caused her a lot of stress and shame. My "Dad" was the source of a lot of childhood pain for me but one has to learn to forgive and move on. I can still remember all the good times we had together and I try to focus on them rather than the hurtful times and emotional pain. My Mom still has his ashes with her and I called her today to ask if she would wish him a Happy Birthday from me. She started to cry, I think because she expects me not to recognize this day.
But, he raised me, fed me, put a roof over my head and clothes on my back. Whatever reasons there were that caused him to be the person he was, caused me to be the person I am. I am grateful for this. He made me strong and helped me to cope with my daily struggles. I miss him. And I forgive him. Love you Dad and Happy Birthday!! Love, Lynn

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RE: broken hearts... - 9/28/2008 7:16:44 AM   
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I am touched by your comment. I do think when we read the candle messages on here and the forum posts, we are sending out love and healing in our thoughts.  The thing I love about Gratefulness is that we really do seem to come together and be under the wing of this wonderful forum.

I understand about what you said about how wonderful life is. I am amazed at where I live in a town that there is so much "life" all around me. I found a hedgehog the other day in a car park, and a grasshopper in my back garden. I have wonderful yellow roses that bloom without me doing anything really; and there is wonderful bird song. In the evening I can see the moon from my back room window; and sometimes a wonderful colourful wood pidgeon comes and sits in my neighbours garden.

Love you Sparrow!
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RE: broken hearts... - 9/28/2008 8:27:00 AM   
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Dear Jude . . .
Thank you for your kind and so thoughtful response to my response. I too, wrote mine in Word, and then cut and pasted it. I hadn't had the trouble you did, but was afraid something like that might happen, and it took me awhile to think through such a long post. Now I know to continue to do this if I expect my post to be long.

“Giving and receiving are the same.” If we don’t graciously receive what someone gives us, even if it isn’t the gift we wanted, then we deprive the giver of the ‘gift’ of giving.
 
(Your quote above)
I think you are SO right about giving and receiving being the same thing. You have a very wise friend. I do share my suffering when it seems appropriate, and am very aware that my past suffering has given me the gift of compassion (my father was a minister and counciled people in his study on his own time. One day a woman came in and sat crying in her seat across the desk from my father. Finally she said, "Oh pastor, I'm sorry I came--you just wouldn't understand what I'm going through." He was aware that there was some trouble with one of her teenage children. He came around the desk and gently touched her on the shoulder and said. "I think I might be able to understand. You see, I've been suffering a sense of failure and disgrace because my own teenage son has been in trouble with police and has been sent to reform school. I have blamed myself and questioned God myself." The woman was then able to pour out her heart and share her own story. My father's suffering helped her to relieve herself of hers. I might add, that at this time my father was one of three ministers in a big church...the other ministers all wondered what he was doing, with all these strangers coming into his study, some of them street people. When they discovered what he was about, they rallied, and now there is a counciling resource center at the church! My father died a few years ago and I still miss him very much). It's just that by remembering that I am not my suffering . . . I am more than my suffering, I may be able to help someone else see that too. It doesn't necessarily lessen it for another person, but it can sometimes help to realize this.

You have helped me to remember the most important thing, which is that giving and receiving are truly the same thing. Thank you Jude. I think that you must be a blessing to those who know you.

And like both of you, Jude and Edda, I tend to not tell others when I am not well. I must say though, that I did unload (with a sense of humor as it's now all over) about the awful, awful 36 hours preceeding a colonoscopy I just had...I might not have been so humourous about it, if the outcome had been as bad as I feared. I would have been better prepared if someone had shared this with me!

I can tell Lynn, from your post that you loved your father very much, whether he was your biological father or not, and to think of him and continue to honour him on his birthday is a gift to both you and your mother, who loved him too. I mentioned earlier that my father died a few years ago, and my sister, about 30 years ago. I know it touches my mother that we still honour them on their birthdays. Sharing that grief draws us closer and especially for her I think, as she is not well, and approaches her own death, helps her approach it with more love in her heart.
Love and blessings to all of you. I feel very close to this forum and to the people I will probably never meet, who share so much of what is in your hearts.
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RE: broken hearts... - 9/28/2008 9:20:32 AM   
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Thank you Sparrow. Prayers and blessings to you and yours. Lynn

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