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Offensive language - 10/11/2008 9:56:36 AM   
TAS

 

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Status: offline 		First of all I want to introduce myself. My name is Teresa and I live in Boulder, CO. I have been lighting candles, off and on, for sometime now. I love coming and lighting candles for myself, family and friends. I know that the energy generated here is powerful and goes out to the Highest Source. I joined this forum to ask for help in removing certain candles in the Obama prayer group. They are deeply offensive, disruptive and hate filled. I ask that the moderators remove them immediately, censor, and ban the people that have abused the Gatefulness site. 

I am in tears at the ugliness shown to other human beings. Please remove these ugly, destructive candles as soon as possible and monitor this group.

Thank you.
TAS

P.S. The message was edited upon request by the writer.

< Message edited by Hildegard -- 10/12/2008 12:01:18 PM >
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RE: Offensive language - 10/11/2008 11:24:46 AM   
buttington

 

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Status: offline 		Tas, I am sorry you are feeling so distressed about the abuse of the candle site. I agree with you that it is awful.

I don't know anything about removing them or their authors, but I do feel you may be feeding their unpleasant little minds by concentrating on them in this way.

Please try to distance yourself from these awful people and keep lighting candles in other candle groups here. Stay away from this one. You can always start another candle group under another name. Don't give bullies the pleasure of knowing they have upset you.

"What we concentrate on becomes stronger."

Jude

< Message edited by Hildegard -- 10/12/2008 11:57:53 AM >

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RE: Offensive language - 10/11/2008 11:28:57 AM   
Hildegard

 

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Status: online 		Welcome to the forum, Teresa!
I am sorry that you encountered these offensive candles. We have been dealing with an HRC candle group where such candles appeared. Is the Obama group a different group? Moderators cannot remove candles, administration has to do this. The quickest way to reach them is to click on Pat or Margaret and let them know throught a  private message. We have been trying to monitor the site known to us, but it is realistically impossible for anyone to read all the messages. Your help is appreciated!
I will let administration know about what you found.

Wishing you everything good,
Edda

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RE: Offensive language - 10/11/2008 11:56:32 AM   
Pat

 

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Status: offline 		Hi, Teresa,

Let me add to Edda's thanks for your help keeping "Light a Candle" a serene place.  When you see offensive candles, can you please either send me the group name or personal initials that appear beneath them?  That is the only way we can search for them out of more than 10,000 candles lit.  Wish i could find the ones you mentioned, though while trying i did find and remove others that violate our usage policy.

Jude, i appreciate your comment, too, about keeping a positive, respectful  concentration going.  We will all contribute that that in addition to trying to remove offensive candles when possible.

All kind wishes,
Pat
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RE: Offensive language - 10/11/2008 12:01:34 PM   
TAS

 

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Status: offline 		Yes, the Obama group is different from the HRC group. I realize that it is impossible to monitor all candles/groups lit. They have been lighting taunting candles for awhile, but this morning when I went to light candles I encountered, full force, REAL ugliness. I don't mean to "feeding their unpleasant little minds" but even Jesus whipped the merchants from the temple. I have lit candles for these poor people. May God enlighten and heal them.
TAS
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ORIGINAL: Hildegard

Welcome to the forum, Teresa!
I am sorry that you encountered these offensive candles. We have been dealing with an HRC candle group where such candles appeared. Is the Obama group a different group? Moderators cannot remove candles, administration has to do this. The quickest way to reach them is to click on Pat or Margaret and let them know throught a  private message. We have been trying to monitor the site known to us, but it is realistically impossible for anyone to read all the messages. Your help is appreciated!
I will let administration know about what you found.

Wishing you everything good,
Edda


< Message edited by Hildegard -- 10/12/2008 11:58:47 AM >
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RE: Offensive language - 10/11/2008 12:03:30 PM   
TAS

 

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Status: offline 		Pat,
Will this get you to the Obama prayer group?
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Obama
TAS
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ORIGINAL: Pat

Hi, Teresa,

Let me add to Edda's thanks for your help keeping "Light a Candle" a serene place.  When you see offensive candles, can you please either send me the group name or personal initials that appear beneath them?  That is the only way we can search for them out of more than 10,000 candles lit.  Wish i could find the ones you mentioned, though while trying i did find and remove others that violate our usage policy.

Jude, i appreciate your comment, too, about keeping a positive, respectful  concentration going.  We will all contribute that that in addition to trying to remove offensive candles when possible.

All kind wishes,
Pat
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RE: Offensive language - 10/11/2008 12:06:24 PM   
TAS

 

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Status: offline 		I see that you have removed 2 of the ugly-think candles. There is another - the initials are J.McC.

Thank you. I have no way of expressing my relief.
TAS
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RE: Offensive language - 10/11/2008 2:26:04 PM   
Hildegard

 

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Status: online 		Dear Teresa,

Pat tells me that she has removed about 60 candles. I found the last one you mentioned. This one is more of the questionable kind compared to some of the others. Unfortunately this may not be the end of all this for some time. We had a previous thread about this problem. Someone suggested to fill the group with positive messages, as you have been doing as I noticed while looking through the Obama group. Thank you!

Have a great weekend,
Edda

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RE: Offensive language - 10/11/2008 6:27:35 PM   
buttington

 

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Status: offline 		Teresa, I am continuing to light candles on the offending site. Love is more powerful than hate and fear.

Blessings, Jude

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RE: Offensive language - 10/11/2008 9:05:46 PM   
TAS

 

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Status: offline 		Yes, love and positive energy is the key. Thank you for your kindness and willingness to help flood the site with good energy.
TAS
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ORIGINAL: buttington

Teresa, I am continuing to light candles on the offending site. Love is more powerful than hate and fear.

Blessings, Jude
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RE: Offensive language - 10/12/2008 8:33:31 AM   
kriann

 

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Status: offline 		i will also light candles frequently there.  this problem is all over the internet nowadays.  people use the internet in such hostile ways.

i was just thinking the past few days how i want to do more that contributes to good in the world by focusing on intentionally living in a loving, positive, compassionate, tolerant way.  since i prayed about it this morning, i've had many opportunities to do just that.

if we use love to conquer hatred, we will succeed (imho).

love,
kriann

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RE: Offensive language - 10/12/2008 9:58:07 AM   
buttington

 

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Status: offline 		As if on cue............this came via email to me this morning.

Acts that proceed from your calm center are always more effective than acts that proceed from fear, guilt, or anger.

    -- Alan Cohen

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RE: Offensive language - 10/12/2008 11:01:26 AM   
TAS

 

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Joined: 10/11/2008
Status: offline 		I wish to thank all of those that went to the Obama prayer room and lit candles with such positive love and prayers. I also wish to express my thanks to the mods for removing the negative candles. Our prayer room is once again filled with light.
Thanks
TAS
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RE: Offensive language - 10/12/2008 12:28:02 PM   
lilsparrow

 

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From: New York State USA
Status: offline 		Welcome, Teresa, to the forum.
I am happy that your entrance has inspired us all to counteract negativity with candles of hope.
Edda . . . I too, had noticed some negative and some downright obscene messages in the candle section a few weeks ago. I understand it is not possible to catch them all. Unfortunately it is one of the down-sides of the internet. There is always someone to use it for mean-spirited, evil, and hateful purpose.
Kriann . . .
a wonderful intention. I do believe that we can change the world with love, compassion, and tolerance . . . by meeting violence and negativity with calm and light. There is hope for us all.
Jude, I love your quote:
Acts that proceed from your calm center are always more effective than acts that proceed from fear, guilt, or anger.

   -- Alan Cohen
It is so appropriate to this topic.
As your signature states . . ."Love is the only way"
I too, have lit a candle for goodness and light . .
with love to you all . . .
sparrow

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RE: Offensive language - 10/15/2008 3:56:41 PM   
Beverin

 

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Status: offline 		Yes, this has been going on for some time (see my earlier thread "Enlighten Up!")  I believe it is primarily one person, and I wish the person could be blocked completely at this point, as he/she has continually abused the candle lighting space with hate messages, both in the hrc and obama groups.

Having said that -- it will all be over by November 5 (we hope!), and maybe those whose fears manifest as such anger will be able to let go at that point (or at least pipe down.) 

peace, brothers and sisters
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RE: Offensive language - 10/15/2008 4:28:47 PM   
Hildegard

 

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Status: online 		Dear Beverin,

Administration has been quite busy removing offensive candles. Unfortunately, it is not possible to block a single individudal. If you find candles that have been overlooked, please, help and notify Pat or Margaret, providing the necessary details for them to locate the candle, usually the signature with which the candle is marked.

Yes, we have hope that this will stop with the election!

Thank you for your concern,

Edda

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RE: Offensive language - 10/16/2008 10:45:13 PM   
Beverin

 

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Status: offline 		I appreciate all you are doing, and I realize you have a lot of candles to mind.

As has been pointed out before, there are specific groups that have been the target of these hate messages -- it started in the "hrc" group, but now has moved to the "obama" group.

My suggestion would be to keep an eye on these groups or similar, obviously political, groups that might spring up. 

Thank you for taking good care of this forum.
Beverin
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RE: Offensive language - 10/17/2008 12:32:22 AM   
TAS

 

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Status: offline 		it gets really hard sometimes - but the "mildly offensive" candles I can stomach. I light a candle sending them God's love. I have not seen any of the really ugly and offensive remarks like the ones I first posted. For that I am really grateful!
TAS
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RE: Offensive language - 10/17/2008 5:55:41 AM   
buttington

 

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Status: offline 		Dear Teresa,
I'm glad that you have reached a place where you feel less hurt by these messages. You are doing the right thing in sending them all love and light. They don't realize what they are doing, to themselves as much as anyone.

Love, Jude

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RE: Offensive language - 11/3/2008 10:07:34 AM   
Beverin

 

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Status: offline 		I will be SO GRATEFUL when this election is over.  It is scary and disheartening to read some of the messages in some of the political groups.  I realize they come out of people's fears and ignorance, but if the discourse -- what are supposed to be prayers! -- in some of the political groups on this site is so completely black-and-white and often bigotted, I can only imagine the language on some of the blogs out there. Hatred only feeds more hatred.  I just hope that this country can coooool down come Wednesday and look at the REAL problems we and the whole world have to solve -- TOGETHER.
Beverin
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