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RE: my mum - 3/31/2008 10:59:42 PM   
Marie M.

 

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Hello Sharon. I am glad to see you are here. We missed you. Sharon, first of all please listen to what I would like to say. Trying to bring change about, you MUST stop hating yourself. You are a gift God has created, as unique as all of us here. Do not hate yourself, we don't feel that way towards you. For one day as a start look ONLY, at the positive things about yourself, try writing them down, look in the mirror and forgive yourself and try saying I am a good person, I am loved, I can offer things to others, knowledge, friendship and love. 

Changing a mindset that has been there is not easy to change, but can make your life more fulfilling. You are a good person, an important person and you deserve to be happy. We all do.

This story had brought about a change for me. It had changed major thinking, giving me confidence. 
I have always been quiet, shy you could say when I was younger. A few years ago, I had a job where I would talk to many people via phone, from many universities and government held companies. Talking to them was not a problem, but then a major convention was offered by the company, our customers were all coming to town. I knew I would not meet them, I was in the office, and they were meeting at a local hotel for the convention. After lunch, the president of the company I worked for came to me, and I asked her how the convention was going, her response was, "Marie they are asking where you are they want to meet you." I almost fell over, I could not do this. No way, 200+ directors of university departments and government employees. What would I say? UGH. I forgot to mention I had to go on stage and speak in front of 200+ people, UGH, in 1 hour without advance notice. I was not dressed right, too casual, my hair was wrong, I will stutter, I may faint. OK stop, I went to the restroom and thought it over, I looked and the mirror and said it is OK you will be fine, you are a good person. I went back to my desk and wrote a quick mini speech and thought, if you mess up or trip, laugh, it is ok. The meeting went good, nothing bad happened. But I had to change a mindset to get through, I was warmly welcomed and got a standing ovation with the company president at my side. Whew! I built up the situation in my mind it was going to be worse than it really was. I no longer talk myself down, I remember how wrong I was that time.

My point is: Sharon, we all have things going on in our life, but we can get through them and at one point be happy or try to be and have a fulfilling life despite obstacles.

Love yourself and believe God has a purpose for you. It is not easy to change patterns of thinking, but small, slow steps first. Please consider what I have said. God loves you and you can love yourself.

I only have good intentions, please believe that.

God Bless
Marie
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RE: my mum - 4/1/2008 7:23:31 AM   
J1937

 

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Dear Sharon,

I am so glad you have come back here! I am sorry you are not feeling better. Only yesterday I was thinking of you, reading a poem which, it seems, was written with you and your concerns in mind!  It´s in German, and I´ll try to translate the main part roughly for you.

It says that there is an eternal singing of birds in the woods. Die five times and wake up again: they are still singing. That´s why dying isn´t worth the pain, and it doesn´t lead you to what you are looking for. I´ll tie my soul to the peak of a mountain, between silvery stars. When fatigue befalls me, I want to be high up in the sky...

Dear Sharon, on another Forum here, "Grateful Living Practice", Thankful One and others have been posting pictures and videos which show the beauty of this world of ours. Do go and have a look now and then, and let your soul be calmed and strengthened.

Warm hugs,
Juliana
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RE: my mum - 4/1/2008 3:03:27 PM   
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Dear Sharon,
How good to hear from you. I'm glad you felt able to come and tell us about how you are feeling. Of course it isn't wrong to feel how you do......we all feel like ending it all sometimes, but life is so precious, which is what keeps us going.

You may know the problems I and my Son have had in trying to relate to each other? Well, during one of our couselling sessions, my Son reminded me of a meditation I did once, where I found myself at the bottom of a very deep well which had dried out. It was like a very dark cave. (Probably how I was feeling when my husband was being horrible) I felt scared at first in this hole, but when my eyes became used to the darkness I saw something glittering in the muddy, rather murky looking floor. On closer inspection I found some stones which were sparkling like jewels, with many different colours. I scraped away the soil and found more, then diamonds and other jewels. AT THE BOTTOM OF A DARK AND FRIGHTENING MUCKY HOLE.
 
The meaning of this story is that, even in the darkest hole, or our darkest thoughts, there will be one little speck of light waiting for us to discover it. One glimmer of colour waiting for us to reveal the wonderful precious jewels underneath.

Keep searching for that little glimmer of light. Keep hoping.

Much Love, Jude

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RE: my mum - 4/10/2008 6:54:40 PM   
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Dear Edda
Thank you for your lovely message, you are a wonderful person and I don't know why you or anyone bother with me I really don't. I am struggling big time with my thoughts at the moment but I'm trying to hang on but its so hard the thoughts of doing something are so strong but at the same time I don't want to do anything as I know it would upset my mum so much so I have to try and keep going if not for myself then for her. I just don't know if its a fight I'm ever going to win but I'm still here so I must be here for a reason I just wish I knew what it was
love to you and Leon
sharon
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RE: my mum - 4/10/2008 7:11:53 PM   
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Dear Marie
Thank you for your message and thank you for sharing about when you had to give a speech in front of many people I couldn't do that you should be proud of yourself for doing it even though it was scarey.
You are so right its hard to bring about change I wish it was as easy as taking a tablet and feeling good about yourself but its not. I've always felt negative and hated myself and its really hard to see any thing positive bout myself. Once when I was in hospital after overdosing I had to write a list of negative and positive things about myself. I could write loads of negatives and couldn't think of one positive and still can't. I just feel like a useless worthwhile person who shouldn't be here my life doesn't feel like its worth living and I don't know how to change that. I really wish I could feel different about things I hate the way my life is but feel powerless to do anything about it and I hate myself for feeling this way. I'm sorry I didn't come on here to depress you and I hope I haven't as that is not my intention. You have been through a lot and I don't want to make things any worse for you.
And I know you only have good intentions you are trying to help and I have never doubted that for one minute I'm just not sure I'm worth your effort but I do appreciate all the support you give even if it doesn't always seem like it
love sharon
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RE: my mum - 4/10/2008 7:23:26 PM   
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Dear Juliana
Thank you for your message also its much appreciated. I wish I could say I was feeling better but I'm not and I don't think I ever will but I am trying to hang on and not do anything to myself. Thank you for telling me a bit of that poem it is so true that dying isn't worth the pain I just wish I could stop thinking about it and thinking of ways to do it. I keep thinking there has to be more to life than how I'm feeling or what is the point as I feel dead sometimes so I may as well be and I know there's not many people who would miss me. But I guess I have to keep trying
love sharon
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RE: my mum - 4/10/2008 7:32:01 PM   
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Dear Jude
Thank you for your message why you keep replying to me I don't know as I'm really not worth any of your time I'm really not. Thank you for sharing the story about the meditation you did at one time its much appreciated.
I don't know where my glimmer of hope is coming from at the moment as there doesn't seem to be any but I am still so something must be working. I am just so sick of feeling as I do I've really had enough and if this is what my life is going be like then I really don't want to be here. But then do I have the right to take my own life I don't know, would peope hate me forever if I did I don't know but at the end of the day the decision is mine. Sorry I am sounding so depressing don't mean to I will go
love sharon
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RE: my mum - 4/10/2008 10:35:58 PM   
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Dearest Sharon, I am glad you have come back to share with us how you are doing. I am sorry that you continue to have a tough time. Please, don't keep thinking that you are not worth anyone's attention. You can't think of anything positive about yourself. Sometimes others can see what you can't see. You are a very caring woman. You care for your mother. Just now you cared enough to write individual responses to us. You have shown your care for Leon. Let us to be your family who is concerned about you, loves you and wants to support you. Allow yourself to be loved for who you are. It has nothing to do with worthiness. I know I can't convince you, you need to do this for yourself, but I believe you can do it!

I keep you in my heart and my prayers! Candles are still burning for you!
Much love and warm hugs,
Edda

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RE: my mum - 4/11/2008 2:33:34 PM   
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Dear Sharon,
It's always nice to see your name pop up again.

What you are feeling about yourself is very common. A lot of people do, and also, most people find it hard to think of anything positive about themselves. So, if they were asked to write a list it would be similar to yours. Fortunately, I've got past that phase of my life and I can list a lot of positives about myself now.

You are definitely NOT powerless. That is a state of mind only, and not true. Even if you don't believe it, try telling yourself you are a worthy person. Say it as often as you think of it. It doesn't matter if you think it's a waste of time.....just do it. Eventually your mind will start to believe it. After all, our minds believe everything we tell it. I'm not just saying this to keep you going.......IT'S TRUE.

Great to hear from you,
Love Jude

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RE: my mum - 4/11/2008 3:52:07 PM   
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Dear Sharon,
Thank you so much for replying to my post - it makes me happy to read your message, although of course I wish you would feel better!

Just a thought, Sharon: whenever I feel depressed, I remember what one of our Austrian poets said: "When you are so sad that you think no one in the world can comfort you, go and do a little good deed for someone who needs it - and you will feel better at once." It has always worked for me. There are so many people waiting for a smile, a kind word, some help, some sign of appreciation...The gratitude they show will convince you of your own worth!

Do come back here.

Warm hugs,
Juliana
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RE: my mum - 4/12/2008 12:04:20 AM   
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Hello Sharon, it is good to see you here. Coming to Gratefulness to connect with one another is a positive thing, and your friendship as a group member in the forum, that is another. That is two positives. Good to hear from you.

Marie
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RE: my mum - 4/12/2008 7:55:58 AM   
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Hi Sharon,
I wrote this last night, and this morning I find Thankful One´s list of kindnesses on the other Forum, "Grateful living Practice", > "Today I am grateful for", p.77. If you go there you´ll see what I mean by doing something for others. In the end you do it for yourself, as you stop focusing on yourself (and your unhappiness). Check it out, dear Sharon!

Love,
Juliana
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RE: my mum - 4/16/2008 9:16:01 AM   
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I've been thinking about this for the last few days and have decided to stay away from here. I don't want to keep coming on and say how depressed I am its not fair on you all so I will leave you all in peace you are all wonderful people but my life is hopeless and there's no point in anyone trying to help but thank you all for trying it means a great deal to me.
love sharon
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RE: my mum - 4/16/2008 1:37:15 PM   
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Dear Sharon,
I hope you will visit us sometimes. Please don't give up hope, and don't underestimate the power of prayer......yours and ours.

Love Jude


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RE: my mum - 4/16/2008 5:20:46 PM   
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Sharon please visit with us. Jude is right about the power of prayer. You are held in my prayers and many others daily. We are always here for you and always will be, a sort of extended family we all have become, and we truly care about you.

Marie
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RE: my mum - 4/16/2008 8:17:32 PM   
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Dearest Sharon, please, don't stay away from here. You are part of this family, we are here to stay with you no matter how you feel. You may feel hopeless, but we don't feel that way about you. Please, allow yourself to accept the love offered to you here.

You are in my prayers and in my heart. Candles keep burning for you. Let their light shine into your heart!

Much love and warm hugs,
Edda

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RE: my mum - 4/17/2008 12:56:28 AM   
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Dear Sharon,
I´ll be waiting for you to come back, too. Candles of love and hope will be burning for you.

Juliana
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RE: my mum - 4/17/2008 4:08:58 PM   
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I must apologise for what I posted yesturday I'm not sure what I was thinking when I posted it and I am sorry. I don't want to stay away from here and even when I try to I can't I always feel compelled to come back. I can't explain it but I get these thoughts in my head that people hate me and don't want me around then when people are friendly I just want to push them away as I don't or can't believethey really want to know me. I do the same with friends and my mum and I don't know why I guess its all because of the depression when you think badly of yourself you don't expect other people to feel any different towards you and its hard to accept that people do care. I don't know how my best friend puts up with me but she does even though I push her away she still comes back not that I deserve it. I do't know if this is making any sense at all and if it doesn't I'm sorry.

I want to thank you edda Jude Juliana and marie for all your support you don't know how much it means thank you
love sharon
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RE: my mum - 4/17/2008 4:16:11 PM   
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Dear Sharon,
I understand totally what you are saying. Yes, it definitely is the depression.
I have had a male friend for 9 years now who suffers from depression and I have been pushed away more times than I can count. But you don't get rid of me that easily

I'm glad you want to keep coming to the Forum. Even if you don't post, it's nice to read what others have said.

Lots of Love and hugs, Jude

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RE: my mum - 4/17/2008 10:20:59 PM   
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Dear Sharon, thank you for your message. No apology is necessary. As Jude says, you can't get rid of us so easily! Your note makes excellent sense! I am always happy to find a post from you in any of the threads. You are very caring in your response to so many who share their concerns!

Much love and many warm hugs,
Edda 

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