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The complaint about malicious messages - 8/4/2007 2:08:11 AM   
Emil

 

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Joined: 4/4/2007
From: Rosenberg, TX
Status: offline 		Dear friends: I'm sorry since I now realize I was one of the offending parties. It didn't even register in my mind that we were being asked not to post religious messages. I thought a religious person had offended the mother. However, I was so shocked that the petitioner was stating that her friend was "losing" her baby that I misunderstood the rest and I went to the candle site and prayed for the baby and his parents. The way I see it, her friend was not losing her baby, but ending a pregnancy since the baby wasn't healthy.

Anyway, when I re-read the message tonight, I went to look for my candle and saw that it had been cleared, that my prayer for God's love and a blessing for the parents had been deemed offensive. Then I looked at the Home section of this community and found the following:

Purpose
To provide resources for living in the gentle power of gratefulness, which restores courage, reconciles relationships, and heals our Earth; and to create a global network of people who practice the art of life as gift.
 
Although I believe I'm kind and loving to those I encounter in life, I don't believe in being politically correct. Medical termination of the life of a defenseless child who even had a name is not in keeping with the very purpose of this board; it is abortion. 

Something has happened on this board this week which has convinced me I must move on, and this will be my last post here. I know abortion is a very touchy and divisive subject, but please keep in mind that I went to the site not to condemn the parents but to pray that God bless them and grant them the grace to realize how important life is at every stage.

Edda, you are an amazing moderator and very inspiring. I hope Leon heals very soon, and I will continue to pray for you and him. I will also continue to pray for all others I've met here, and wish all a joyful life and the knowledge of God. For those who believe in Christ, please know that he has touched my life in an unimaginable way and I ask you to join me in following him in every aspect of your life; for those who don't, you have inspired me and touched me with your friendship and goodwill.

I will miss you all, and if anyone wants to drop me an email, please feel free to do so.

Love,
Emil
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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/4/2007 7:11:03 AM   
buttington

 

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From: UK
Status: offline 		Dear Emil,

This is terrible!! Anyone who knows anything about you will know that your heart is full of Love for all who come here to the site asking for help.

I am heartbroken that you feel the need to leave, while understanding your feelings totally.

I will certainly continue to pray for you too.

Much Love, J

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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/4/2007 9:27:33 AM   
Vicky

 

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Status: offline 		Emil
You will be missed. Please rethink your leaving.

You have helped so many people with your kind thoughts and prayers and comments. There are always differing opinions and beliefs. That's what makes life interesting. People believe different things even at different stages in their lives. Do not abandon the glorious good you have done on this message board because of a few different beliefs.

Please come back ... there are many souls out there that could use your prayers and kind words. Bless you!

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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/4/2007 9:46:34 AM   
celtic star

 

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Status: offline 		Dear Emil
This is so sad, I cannot and would not say anything to influence anyone's decision, you must do what feels right for you. Take the greatest care of yourself. Thank you for you prayers and support over the past weeks.I will miss you. Glenys x
" When you pray you rise to meet in the air those who are praying at that very hour, and whom save in prayer you may not meet" Kahlil Gibran
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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/4/2007 10:42:01 AM   
Star5776

 

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Status: offline 		Emil,

My prayers are with you, and if it is right and you feel comfortable may you come back.

Star
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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/4/2007 12:50:26 PM   
mommacrystal

 

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From: Virginia
Status: offline 		I know that you have to do what you feel is right but I do hate to see you go, my love and prayers are with you always, much love and God bless.

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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/5/2007 12:43:38 AM   
china34doll

 

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Joined: 6/22/2007
Status: offline 		Emil;Please stay I don't want you to go;it was only a misunderstanding,there will be more but we still need you here , you have helped me a great deal,and yes I do believe in Jesus ............I'm quite sure i've made mistakes in my posts too but I can't always be right thats what I'm made of mistakes. God Bless Judy
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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/5/2007 12:54:15 AM   
china34doll

 

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Status: offline 		I sense  every where I go it's either good karma or bad;I went to the super market one day and it was dead just me and the cash register workers,I went about my business I turned around and the whole store was full of people this happenes mostly where ever I go,I come here to read sadness,it pains me to see or hear such chaos where it wasn't really a major thing just an honest mistake. How can we be born not perfect yet never make any mistakes?
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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/5/2007 7:21:34 AM   
buttington

 

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From: UK
Status: offline 		Dear Judy,

Yes, I think this whole issue was a mistake. We are human! I think I must have missed the post which said specifically not to write anything Christian for that lady who was losing her baby, and I'm wondering now if it ever existed?? Anyone know?

Emil is a very special soul and we are already missing his Love.

Love J

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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/5/2007 9:28:18 AM   
Hildegard

 

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Joined: 8/30/2006
From: Chicago
Status: online 		Dear Jude, I never saw a post to the effect not to light candles with religious messages for this woman. Perhaps this information was passed along by word of mouth among her friends and acquaintances, because the one seeking to have the candle removed registered, when the group had already been started. I did not know of this candle group. We don't know all the circumstance for the decision made. I would think it was an anguished one. Supporting her in her distress does not mean one has to agree with the choice she made. I think this is a little like supporting our troops without necessarily supporting the war. I have written to Emil with the hope he will reconsider. I agree with everyone that his presence here is greatly appreciated. I also agree that there may be several misundestandings that brought this about. I am sure Emil is also distressed and in need of our prayers.
And, yes, we all make mistakes and may not express ourselves as clearly as we would like. What one says and what is heard are often not the same thing. This is human and provides us with opportunities for compassion. And life might get a bit boring if we were all too perfect?!

With every good wish,
Edda

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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/5/2007 10:48:11 AM   
buttington

 

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Joined: 6/9/2007
From: UK
Status: offline 		Dear Edda,
I think this is happening in order to teach us all an important lesson. (different for all of us)

For me it has been not to jump to conclusions. I agree that our support of each other is paramount.

And also to tell people just how much they mean to us, and never take anyone for granted. Normally I'm quite a reticent person, but do see red sometimes and 'go off on one' a bit. React instead of Responding, I think it's called!!!

Much love, Jude

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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/5/2007 10:59:09 AM   
Hildegard

 

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Joined: 8/30/2006
From: Chicago
Status: online 		Dear Jude, don't we all do that at times? I try to think before I speak, but ever so often I have what I call "foot-in-mouth-disease". Unfortunately, apologies don't make words unspoken!

Enjoy the remainder of this Sunday!
Love,  Edda

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Peace and joy!
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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/5/2007 10:55:45 PM   
IvyImptress

 

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Status: offline 		Emil,

Don't feel bad for doing something you meant in kindness.

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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/6/2007 4:23:42 AM   
Emil

 

Posts: 285
Joined: 4/4/2007
From: Rosenberg, TX
Status: offline 		Thank all of you. You've shown me much kindness, both here and in your emails, and I appreciate your concern very much.

Let's all pray privately for the woman who lost her child, whatever the circumstances. Let's also pray for her husband and loved ones. I'm not passing judgment on them; I have lived a life myself which has been far from perfect.

I continue to pray for each of your needs and wish you a joyous week ahead.

With love,
Emil
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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/6/2007 6:46:54 AM   
mbc56

 

Posts: 24
Joined: 4/14/2007
From: Liverpool UK
Status: offline 		Dear Emil, I have only just logged on for the first time in a few days and I am deeply upset by what I have read.  I can only say that although I am not a religious person I have been greatly helped and comforted by the prayers that you have been saying for my son Andrew, my daughter Helen and myself.  I am so sorry that you have been made to feel this way when all I have ever got from your postings, and your candle messages, is love and a deep caring for people.  I hope you reconsider your decision to leave this site, I for one would feel a deep sense of loss not to see your words here any more.  This site for me has always been one of sharing compassion, support and love and it saddens me that this episode has cause so much confusion and pain.  I send you love, as always, and I hope to see you here again soon.
Much love,
Andrew's mum, Marie.
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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/6/2007 8:43:21 AM   
Hildegard

 

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Joined: 8/30/2006
From: Chicago
Status: online 		Dearest Emil,
Welcome back! I am SO glad you reconsidered your decision and are gifting us with your presence once again. As you have seen above in many posts, your presence, love and care, your prayers are very much appreciated.

Thank you!
With much love,
Edda

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Peace and joy!
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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/6/2007 8:48:55 AM   
zenmember

 

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From: Sarnia, Ontario, Canada
Status: offline 		ditto,rj
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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/6/2007 12:29:50 PM   
Marie M.

 

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Status: offline 		Emil, I am so glad you have returned here to be with us. I believe you always were, in mind and spirit, despite things that had arisen. My prayers are for you, and with you, for all that are needing them.

God Bless you.
Seneca's Mom
Marie 
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RE: The complaint about malicious messages - 8/6/2007 1:22:30 PM   
buttington

 

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Joined: 6/9/2007
From: UK
Status: offline 		 We are Blessed! More answered prayer.

Love to Emil and everyone including those who were upset by the religious messages.

Jude

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RE: The welcome mat is always here. - 8/7/2007 2:02:01 AM   
china34doll

 

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Joined: 6/22/2007
Status: offline 		Welcome back Emil;your presence was meant to be here we are all teachers and students eh? keep smiling



quote;Be a light to others and you won't stumble on your own path.....                    unknown
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