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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/17/2007 5:38:51 PM   
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edda thank you so much for your kind words and advice.

im just about to go to bed but wanted to let you all know i am calmer now. i think it was just shock after what has been a very difficult week.
i take comfort in knowing that my mother isnt seriously ill and im so very glad to have her still in my life.

so many people do not have their mums with them anymore.

tonight i have also written a letter to my very dear friend who sadly died in 2004 asking him to look after my pod. i write to him often does that sound odd?  but knowing my friend he will be with pod already.

i think we all have different visions of what heaven is like but i believe that angel babies and babies like pod go to heaven as the babies they would have been. is it ok to think like that?

well tomorrow is a new day and as i close tonight i want to pray for all those whose lives are so much worse than mine and i want to give thanks for all the things i do have. my home, my partner my wonderful wonderful little boy, my mum, my health and for all those who love me and touch my life in so many different ways.

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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/17/2007 6:16:26 PM   
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Dear Gemma,

I agree with Edda. Trying to 'drown' your sorrows won't work. I'm so sorry you have had another bit of bad news, but as Edda says, arthritis is very treatable. I've had it for most of my life and have found natural remedies which help enormously. Also changing my diet. This can also help quite dramatically. Help your mum research the subject - it will give you something to focus on, and you will feel better for being able to help someone you love.

One day at a time,

Love and hugs.   J

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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/17/2007 6:18:46 PM   
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Gemma, I forgot to say I think writing letters to people who have passed on is a wonderful idea and VERY O.K. Very healing. I would do it.
Love  J

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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/17/2007 6:39:37 PM   
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Dear Gemma, I agree with Jude, writing to someone who has gone ahead of us is good and healing. In my own faith I believe that those who have died are with God and since God is everywhere, they are near us. It doesn't matter how very young or old they were. One of this Sunday's readings talks about being "surrounded by a cloud of witnesses." I find this very comforting! We are all connected, living and dead!
I am so glad you are feeling calmer. I hope you are enjoying a good night of refreshing sleep

With much love,
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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/18/2007 12:47:50 AM   
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Gemma, your emotions will be off for a while due to the hormones, it is quite normal and natural you are feeling this way, but keeping it in perspective is very important. I have gone through the ups and downs afterward. My healing came from people that loved me for support. Initially I had blamed myself, maybe I carried something, maybe I did not rest enough... I could go on and on. This was not the case. Some situations are out of our control.
Going to the pub which you said you won't do, would only make you feel worse in the long run, the day after. Especially with a full day with caring for the toddler. You have a family that cares for you, a wonderful Mother, small boy and a partner that all have your best intentions at heart for you. And many here at Gratefulness, a new family. We understand we have all come here for support, prayers, healing and candles. You are not alone.

If it feels like it is too much to deal with, think about calling your Doctor and explain how you are really feeling. 

There are support groups online that are for those who have had a loss due to miscarriage. I have been on a few just by doing a general search. It might be something you would do in addition to being here at Gratefulness. 

Maybe a day or two away with family, friends or a mini hotel get away will be something you want to think about. At my own resistance, I went away for a vacation, not to forget but came back with a clearer thought.

Try resting more, eating right and keep yourself healthy for your little guy. Stress wears you down internally.

I am sorry to hear your Mother has arthritis, not a fault of yours. Stop the blaming yourself.

I hope some of this helps you or at least something to think about.

God Bless You
Marie
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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/18/2007 3:49:19 PM   
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hello again.

well ive had a much calmer day today. i even managed to cook a roast dinner. i also spoke to my mum so i feel more positive about that. i watched the news today and its made me think about a fair few things. theres so much upset in the world that its put my life into perspective. of course im still upset about pod but im so thankful that my life in many other ways is fine.

there was a fire in a hotel which partly collapsed and six people cant be found. their poor families must be going through complete turmoil. theres a mining distaster in china and another suicide bomber in iraq.

i wish bad things didnt happen. those people and their families will be in my prayers tonight xx

weve had a breakthrough today. my partner has started opening up to me and told me how scared he was when i was rushed to hospital. he still hasnt mentioned pod but one step at a time isnt it?

weve had a relativly quiet day just me my partner and darling cade who has decided that at 10 months he can feed himself so cue one very big mess.

weve also been planning his 1st birthday i think it has given us something to focus on. and thats what we need i think. something we can do together.

so all in all a quiet and reflective day. i have learnt that whilst my loss is at times very very upsetting other people are going through losses and hard times too. partner uis opening up more and im seeing things in different ways.

god bless you all and thanks for reading xxxxx

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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/18/2007 4:35:21 PM   
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Dearest Gemma, I was happy to read your post for today. You have made HUGE progress! I just can see Cade feeding himself and an imaginary dog on the floor as well!

I am so glad that communications with your partner are moving in the right direction and he is opening up! He deserves a great deal of credit for this, because I am sure this is not easy for him. Let him know how much you appreciate it!

Have a wonderful Sunday, enjoy your family!
Wishing you peace,
Much love and many warm hugs,
Edda

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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/18/2007 7:08:33 PM   
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Dear Gemma,

I'm so pleased you have some positive things happening in your life, and, while I agree that world events do put things into perspective, losing a child is a big event for you.

It's great that your partner is starting to talk to you. I think men deal with things a bit differently. I remember after the birth of my Son, 37 years ago !! my husband felt really pushed out. The birth of our first child seemed to bring us closer together, but the second had the opposite effect for a while. He too was very frightened by the difficult birth and didn't know how to deal with his fear.

So, healing is happening for you, one day at a time.

Lots of Love    J

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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/20/2007 3:36:56 AM   
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hello again.

its hard to believe that 7 days have passed already. yesterday was quite a good day. my partner bought me some chocolate and i spent the day watching videos with cade. (i think i may have to buy a dog it would be so much easier than hoovering hee hee)

we are still waiting to see if cade does break out in chicken pox. all the signs are there but still no spots.

i had a bit of a cry last night as its hard to believe a week ago everything happened. i have to have a blood test tomorrow to make sure my hormone level things have gone down. i think today is going to be a difficult day as in about an hours time i would have done my first pregnancy test last week.

my lovely volunteer will be here soon so im going to get out the house and look around the shops. feel upset today but i think its to be expected. think i will buy another video today to watch tonight. i actually buy them for cade (walt disney) but im a big kid at heart myself!

im finding that your advice helps me so much. ive started setting a goal for myself each day no matter how small and it gives me something to focus on. todays goal is to buy a video.

i am also going to make an appointment with the doctor today as well.

god bless you all for reading xxxx

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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/20/2007 8:35:39 AM   
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Dearest Gemma,

I am so sorry about your loss. Yes, I understand your anger, emptyness, lonliness, etc. Our firstborn son, Timothy died. Tim was full term and died as a baby. Reading your posts reminded me of all the nightmares I had after Tim's death. In my dreams I was still pregnant and Tim was still inside me and safe. Then I would wake up and for me, the full horror of the whole situation came out. I, too, asked what I had ever done to deserve all this! PLEASE, don't blame yourself.

Gemma, I don't know if you are Christian but that doesn't matter. All faiths have respect for Jesus either as Son of God or Prophet very close to God. Ok, so why am I bring this up?? What did Jesus ever do to deserve crucifixion?? He was kind, caring, healed the sick, stood up for the poor and got killed because of it. But through it all, God SUSTAINED Him. The Holy One did not take it away or save him from it but sustained Him through it. Dear Gemma, no one can take away the pain you are feeling. Honor it, go through it, and in the midst of the pure hell of it, ask the Holy One to sustain you through it. (This oftem is my mantra when things seem to heavy to bear). Then look for all the little ways that the Holy One drops in front of you to let you know that Someone is sharing your pain with you, walking with you, and carrying you through it.

Gemma, it's ok to feel angry, lonely, etc. Even Jesus on the cross cried out "My God, My God, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?"

Dearest one, Know that you are in my thoughts and prayers, and know that there is Someone called Jesus who felt just as angry, deserted, lonely, etc.. The way to true healing is to allow the pain, go through it rather than around it, and cry out, SCREAM OUT, to be sustained, and then allow the Holy One to sustain you.

If you can buy some really cheap pottery/glassware at a garage sale, some have found it helpful, if you have a place to do it where it is safe, to just smash it against a wall, or beat a pillow as hard as you can with a bat or stick.

It has been 38 years, dear Gemma, the hole is still there, but I can see now how such horrible garbage that life threw into my life has become such life giving mulch.

In this winter time of your life, may the Holy One show you how much you are being accompanied in your pain and loss for truly, the Holy One knows what it feels like to suffer the death of a loved one. Life like nature flows through it's seasons, the winters, autumns, springtime and summer. But, WINTER IS ALWAYS FOLLOWED BY SPRINGTIME!!! No matter how dark, cold, treacherous and endless the winter is, it is ALWAYS FOLLOWED BY SPRING.

Know that you are being held in my heart and prayer, but more importantly, your pain is being shared and you are being held in the heart of the Holy One. Life is life, dear Gemma, but garbage can become mulch if we are open to it. As far as your partner, Dear One, it took my spouse almost seven years before I ever had a clue how much Tim's death effected him.

May you see all those little gifts of sustenance along your path. Namaste!

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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/20/2007 8:39:27 AM   
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Good to hear from you again, dear Gemma! I am glad you had a good day! There will be ups and downs, but as long as the general direction is more up than down you will be fine. (My brother once wrote a composition in gradeschool about an outing. Walking up-hill  in the woods on pine needles, he said it was one step forward and two back! We had a good laugh!)
Take care of yourself, enjoy Cade! It is just one day at a time as Jude wrote above!

Much love and warm hugs,
Edda

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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/20/2007 1:24:57 PM   
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Dear Gemma,

I'm glad to hear you are doing a few 'comfort' things and indulging yourself. Nothing like a good Walt Disney film!!!!! (<:

Keep pampering yourself. You are all in my thoughts.
Love  J

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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/20/2007 6:46:33 PM   
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My love and prayers are with you. May God continue to bring you peace.
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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/21/2007 7:55:14 AM   
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thank you so much. all your words really mean a lot to me. imenuff thank you very much for you wonderful post it truly struck a chord with me.
it reminds me of a poem i once read about a man walking on a sandy beach and he asks god how come he was walking alone at some points and god said it was because he carried him. i really want a copy of that poem. and i found another in my poetry book that i like so im going to copy it out and frame it. as well as the one whose title i cannot remember.

well i had my blood test this morning to make sure my pregnancy hormone levels were going down properly. i felt a bit sad like this short chapter in my life was over but do you know what i did? i looked around the waiting room at everyone else either waiting for blood tests or waiting to see doctors and i shut my eyes and prayed that theose people recieve some sort of good news today from either their test results or doctors.

my pod came to me for a reason and i think it was to give me hope. i have fretted so much about never being able to have more children. and i think even though pod didnt stick he was letting me know that its alright.

so now i will focus on getting through and recovering from my operation (whenever that will be) and then we will try again for a brother or sister for cade.

im quite excited actually. cades birthday is the 4th october and my partner said we cant start buying his presents tonight yay. so im toy shopping tonight (a pasttime i must admit to enjoying)

love and peace to you all xxxxxx

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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/21/2007 8:44:25 AM   
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Dearest Gemma,
I am always looking forward to your latest post. I am touched by your learnig and growing through this painful loss. While you are grieving you are beginning to heal. Most important, you have hope. I am glad for you. It sounds like Cade is going to have a grand birthday! Your partner's helping you with it shows that he cares very deeply for you and Cade.

I am grateful for meeting you here in this forum and for the privilege of having a chance to support you with my prayers.

Much love and warm hugs,
Edda

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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/21/2007 11:45:10 AM   
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Dear One,

The poem you are looking for is called "Footprints" or Footprints in the Sand. I don't know about the UK but it was and is extremely popular here in the states.


Footprints

One night a man had a dream. He dreamed he was
walking along the beach with the LORD. Across
the sky flashed scenes of his life. For each scene,
he noticed two sets of footprints in the sand; one
belonging to him, and the other to the LORD.

When the last scene of his life flashed before him,
He looked back at the footprints in the sand. He
noticed that many times along the path of his life
there was only one set of footprints. He also
noticed that it happened at the very lowest and
saddest times of his life.

This really bothered him and he questioned the
LORD about it. "LORD, you said that once I
decided to follow you, you'd walk with me all the
way. But I have noticed that during the most
troublesome times in my life, there is only one set
of footprints; I don't understand why when I
needed you most you would leave me."

The LORD replied, "My precious, precious child,
I love you and I would never leave you. During
your times of trial and suffering, when you see
only one set of footprints, it was then that I
carried you."

I am sure that there are many bookstores/religious goods stores where you can find a framed copy. It is a beautiful poem and reminds us that we are truly never alone.

May you be blessed while shopping for those very special birthday presents and as the Holy One walks with you and carries you, may you be healed and made whole.

Much love and prayer

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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/22/2007 9:26:34 AM   
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I know how you feel, I will be praying for you.

http://www.i-am-pregnant.com/vip/mytinylittlebean#msg

Don’t let them say I wasn’t born,
That something stopped my heart,

I felt each tender squeeze you gave,
I loved you from the start.

Although my body you can’t hold,
It doesn’t mean I’m gone,

This world was worthy not of me,
God chose that I move on,

I know the pain that drowns your soul,
What you are forced to face,

You have my word, I’ll fill your arms, Someday we will embrace.

You’ll hear that it was “meant to be,
God doesn’t make mistakes”

But that won’t soften your worst blow
Or make your heart not ache.

I’m watching over all you do,
Another child you’ll bear,

Believe me when I say to you,
That I am always there.

There will come a time, I promise you,
When you will hold my hand,

Stroke my face and kiss my lips and
Then you’ll understand.

Although I never breathed your air,
Or gazed into your eyes,

That doesn’t mean I never “was”… An Angel Never Dies.


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laughter without sorrow,
sun without rain, but
He did promise
strength for the day,
comfort for the tears,
and light for the way.
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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/25/2007 4:09:25 PM   
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thank you again.
footsteps thats the one.

well im sorry i havent been on ive had a busy week and ended up back in hospital wednesday night. i got discharged thursaday but there was no reason found for the severe abdo pains i had.

although i had a scan and apparently the ovarian cyst has gone. im trying not to get to excited about this as we were told this last time but it was found using a more in depth scan.

so monday i will hopefully talk to the doctor and if it has gone then we can try again for a baby.

i will not be replacing pod though. but if it has gone then the time is right to try again.

i still keeep thinking about pod and wondering what sort of pregnancy i would be having. but i think thats normal.

well im off to bed now goodnight and god bless. xxxxx

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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/25/2007 8:32:19 PM   
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Dearest Gemma,
Thank you for the update. I am sorry you had to return to the hospital, but I am glad nothing serious was found. Imaging is very helpful but not always perfect. Perhaps this time the cyst IS gone! I hope your medical visits will give you good news and fresh hope!

Enjoy a great Sunday with your family!
With much love and warm hugs,
Edda

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RE: im grateful i found this site - 8/26/2007 1:28:21 PM   
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Dear Gemma,

This is the first time that I have read your posts, I have been "missing" for a while.  My daughter had a miscarriage and as a grandma, I know the sadness, which takes over.  However, I firmly believe that our second grandchild is with God, we don't forget them because we never saw them, the fact is, pod existed as did our grandchild and whilst we remember them, they will live in our hearts for ever.

Blessings.

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