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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/6/2008 3:41:16 AM   
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What a tragedy in your neighborhood! I am so sorry.

My prayers go out to the entire family and the rest of your neighborhood.

I will remember to keep them in my thoughts as it will take a lot out of everybody involved for a long time.

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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/6/2008 11:34:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Juliana, dear, I am so sorry to read about the woman in your neighborhood. How horribly hopeless and sad her life must have seemed to her. Prayers for her and her family and for all of you who lived so close. It is good that no one else was hurt. One never knows the deep sorrow and sense of hopelessness that an individual may feel engulfed in. How very sad for her family and for all of you. May she be blessed and finally be at peace and may her family and all of you be held tenderly in the comforting embrace of the Holy One.

Much hugs and prayers for all of you.

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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/6/2008 1:48:52 PM   
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Status: online 		Edda, Thankful One and Betty,

Thank you warmly for your compassionate posts and prayers. Confronted with a tragedy of such dimensions, the shock one suffers is acute. It is comforting to know there are friends who care, being near, although far away... T.O., the picture you have posted very well conveys the image of the long way ahead of the family.

Juliana
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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/6/2008 2:19:18 PM   
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Status: online 		Dear Juliana,
What a terrible shock indeed and what a very sad woman she must have been.
I will keep them in my prayers.

Jude

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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/18/2008 6:36:16 AM   
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Status: online 		Today I feel a bit Gratitude challenged because I have more problems with my computer. So, if I'm not here I haven't left you
I have a friend who usually cures my PC problems so I live in hopes.

Jude

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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/18/2008 10:14:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jude, Dear, even if you are not here, we haven't left you either. Imee and her little one said to tell you hi and send lots of virtual hugs and let you know how much she enjoyed her visit to the UK and that she was glad she got to see you. May your good "computer fairy" have you back in full service soon.

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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/18/2008 11:14:41 AM   
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Status: online 		Dear Betty and Imee,
Thank you for your good wishes and hugs.

Tell Imee I will look out for her in case she makes another trip to the UK.

Love Jude

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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/24/2008 7:58:22 PM   
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Status: online 		Today I am feeling a bit sad because apparently my son has ended his relationship with his girlfriend and she is heartbroken.
It sounds like the age-old problem of men fearing for their freedom. It seems such a shame that, for some men, their need for freedom is stronger than their need for love...........until they realize their mistake.

I'm sad for both of them, and for the children involved.

Jude

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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/24/2008 8:28:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dear Jude,

I am sorry to hear that and can understand that it makes you feel sad. I got the impression that you liked her and that she seemed good for him.

I pray that it all will work out for the best for all affected,
Edda

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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/25/2008 5:19:32 PM   
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Status: online 		Thank you Edda,
I'm feeling worse tonight as he has neglected his daughter Chloe to spend the weekend with someone else.

I'm battling with feelings of disgust for him and sadness for his previous girlfriend. Only 2 weekends ago they went away together, and the previous weekend they took all the children for a weekend away. She thinks the world of him.

For as long as I live I don't think I will ever understand men. I know it isn't exclusively a 'man' thing, but on the whole they do think differently about relationships.

When I think how he has broken his heart over other girlfriends before, it's hard to understand. I know it sounds ridiculous, but it feels almost as if he's done it to me.

Jude

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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/25/2008 5:42:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dear Jude, it is hard not to take things personal even when they are not meant to be. There are people, and, yes, especially men, who seem relationship-phobic. When things get too serious they bow out, perhaps not thinking how it affects others. Good that Chloe has at least you as a source of steady love and support!

Wishing you everything good,
Much love and warm hugs,
Edda

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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/25/2008 6:27:44 PM   
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Status: online 		Dear Jude,
I am so sorry for what you have to go through. There is not much I can say, Edda has said it so well.

Much love and warm hugs,
Juliana
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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/26/2008 1:38:18 PM   
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Status: online 		Thank you Juliana,
Just your concern helps. I don't feel so bad today, but I still can't look him in the eye. If he wasn't happy in the relationship, of course I don't want him to carry on with it, but it was all done rather unpleasantly, and leaves a nasty taste.
I liked his girlfriend. She is loyal and loving and thought the sun shone out of him! Lucky man
I don't know if Chloe knows yet, but she will be upset too, and the other children are distressed. It will affect how they feel about men in the future too, because this is the third 'father figure' who has gone out of their young lives.

Jude

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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/26/2008 2:03:35 PM   
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Status: online 		Dear Jude,

I can put myself in your place, and again: I am sorry. Do you think you will be able to keep up a relationship with the children? It would certainly be most valuable for them. I know so many ex-mothers-in-law who still give love to ex-partners/-children after their sons or daughters have split. As for Chloe, she will need an extra portion of attentive love. Do you think you can talk to her quite naturally, saying that her father and his friend don´t get on well and have decided not to be together any longer?

Much love,
Juliana
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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/26/2008 6:09:37 PM   
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Status: online 		Dear Juliana,
The girlfriend and her children live too far away for me to keep up any sort of relationship, but I will be texting the girlfriend for a while as she is distraught. However, her children do see quite a lot of their father.
I'll have to test the water to see if Chloe knows anything. There is no counselling session this week or I could have raised it there. I only seem to get updates on my Son's life at these sessions!!

I've just remembered saying to the girlfriend, when I first met her, that I hoped she was strong!! (she is, & probably too much so for my Son as he's a bit of a controller) At the time things were at their worst between him and me, and I felt she needed to be strong to withstand his erratic moods. She supported him in every way she could, and accepted him as he was, but didn't take any nonsense.

I guess we want our children to be perfect, (and they often are as children)and when we discover they are not, it's unpleasant.

Love, Jude

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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/26/2008 10:43:36 PM   
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I'm sorry for the loss of your son's relationship with his girlfriend. It sounded like she was good for him and Chloe. I especially feel bad for you, Chloe and his girlfriend.

I send all of you a big hug. Know that you are all in my prayers for healing.

Some days it seems like I should apologize for being a man when men behave so badly.

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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/27/2008 2:02:47 PM   
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Status: online 		Dear T.O. Don't you dare apologise for being a man!!!!!!!!! I have known plenty of men who don't have this trait and others which a lot of men seem to have. and I'm also sure that women have their bad points too.

But I've often thought that men in general do have a probelm with sticking with one woman, so it must be in their makeup.....perhaps a dominant gene from our primitive beginnings?
I remember this particularly from some of the old Hollywood films which portray the 'little woman' luring her reluctant man into marriage. Commedians have always made jokes about it too.
Even the nicest of men can have a problem with commitment so please, no apologies.

Jude

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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 5/27/2008 6:59:53 PM   
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Status: online 		I forgot to say.....I like the picture of the broken heart and thank you for the big hug.

Jude

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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 6/1/2008 1:09:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jude,
How are things with your son, the now "old" girlfriend and Chloe going?

I hope that they are more reasonable now and that your son has not "flown the coop" on a good relationship he had trouble committing to.

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RE: Today I Feel "Gratitude Challenged...." - 6/1/2008 7:57:26 AM   
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Status: online 		T.O. Thanks for asking. I shall (maybe!!) be able to tell you more when they come back from their long weekend......the fourth in a row without poor Chloe. My anger is ubsiding, but still bubbling beneath the surface. I'm not sure how to approach it yet.

Jude

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