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Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/2/2007 12:01:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is a wonderful website that has a treasury of old zen stories and
lists various personal reactions and responses to each story.  It provides
insight into these stories and the people who have heard them.

Here is an example of one typical zen story:

A student went to his meditation teacher and said, "My meditation is horrible!
I feel so distracted, or my legs ache, or I'm constantly falling asleep. It's just horrible!" "It will pass," the teacher said matter-of-factly.
A week later, the student came back to his teacher. "My meditation is wonderful!

I feel so aware, so peaceful, so alive! It's just wonderful!'
"It will pass," the teacher replied matter-of-factly.


Click here to read some of the responses and Here to learn more stories


                                              


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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/2/2007 2:19:18 PM   
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Status: online 		This reminds me of a quote in one of my books. something like:

Before enlightenment - carryiny water, chopping wood.

After enlightenment - carrying water, shopping wood.

I forget who wrote it.  Jude

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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/2/2007 3:32:14 PM   
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Status: online 		Richard, I love this story. In our prayer group there are always some who think that prayer is supposed to feel good. Sometimes it does, and sometimes it does not!

Edda

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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/2/2007 10:57:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's so true of so many things, too, not just meditation.  I'm learning that for me, my meditation is just a reflection of my life.  Every time I catastrophize about something, it passes.  And every time I think things are "all figured out," it passes.  I guess it's true that what there is is all there is.

Lori

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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/3/2007 10:53:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for the wonderful story and as I will be attending my meditation practice tonight it is a wonderul preperation. Last week I was more aware of the discomfort of sitting so I found the story true to the experience and it brought a smile to me. I look forward to the reading the others.
Namaste
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Barbara T.

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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/4/2007 7:36:05 AM   
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Two monks were washing their bowls in the river when they noticed a scorpion that was drowning. One monk immediately scooped it up and set it upon the bank. In the process he was stung. He went back to washing his bowl and again the scorpion fell in. The monk saved the scorpion and was again stung. The other monk asked him, "Friend, why do you continue to save the scorpion when you know it's nature is to sting?"
"Because," the monk replied, "to save it is my nature."

                                                  
                        click here for several reactions to this story
                              


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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/4/2007 7:48:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Judith, Lori, Barbara and Edda, thank you all for your response to these stories. 
Over the past few years I have enjoyed browsing through them and your reactions
make me happy I decided to share them.


Right now is all we have


gassho, rj
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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/4/2007 8:33:25 AM   
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Status: online 		My reacation:
Doing the right thing again and again even though I know it may hurt.
Edda

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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/4/2007 10:58:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dear Zenmember
Your reminder right now is all we have is a wonderful focus
to remind us to stay in the moment. Blessings to you and all
as we move forward in our practice and our journey.
Please keep the stories coming ... I am reading Wayne Dyers
new book on the Tao. I never become weary of the content.
Namaste
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Barbara T.

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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/6/2007 12:11:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Edda, I'm having the same reaction you did, to do the right thing over and over even though it may hurt.  Sometimes in my job, there isn't much validation for doing the right thing.  The story is a good reminder to keep going, and that my conscience needs to be my guide in all circumstances.

Lori

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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/6/2007 1:12:56 PM   
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Status: online 		Lori, this reminds me of one of Mother Theresa's sayings. You may know it.
People are often unreasonable, illogical
                        and self-centered;
                        Forgive them anyway.

                        If you are kind, People may accuse you
                        of selfish, ulterior motives;
                        Be kind anyway.

                        If you are successful, you will win some
                        false friends and some true enemies;
                        Succeed anyway.

                         If you are honest and frank,
                         people may cheat you;
                         Be honest and frank anyway.

                         What you spend years building, someone
                         could destroy overnight;
                         Build anyway.

                         If you find serenity and happiness,
                         they may be jealous;
                         Be happy anyway.

                         The good you do today,
                         people will often forget tomorrow;
                         Do good anyway.

                         Give the world the best you have,
                         and it may never be enough;
                         Give the world the best you´ve got anyway.
See, in the final analysis,
                         it is between you and God;
                         It was never between you and them anyway.

                         Words spoken by Mother Teresa!


                Love anyway!! Jude

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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/6/2007 2:52:28 PM   
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Edda

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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/7/2007 11:12:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Jude, I've seen that before but had forgotten it.  Thank you so much for the reminder!  It is so true.  I'm going to copy it for myself to have with me at work. 

Lori

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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/9/2007 9:03:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		A beautiful girl in the village was pregnant. Her angry parents demanded to know who was the father. At first resistant to confess, the anxious and embarrassed girl finally pointed to Hakuin, the Zen master whom everyone previously revered for living such a pure life. When the outraged parents confronted Hakuin with their daughter's accusation, he simply replied "Is that so?"
When the child was born, the parents brought it to the Hakuin, who now was viewed as a pariah by the whole village. They demanded that he take care of the child since it was his responsibility. "Is that so?" Hakuin said calmly as he accepted the child.
For many months he took very good care of the child until the daughter could no longer withstand the lie she had told. She confessed that the real father was a young man in the village whom she had tried to protect. The parents immediately went to Hakuin to see if he would return the baby. With profuse apologies they explained what had happened. "Is that so?" Hakuin said as he handed them the child.


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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/10/2007 8:39:39 AM   
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Status: online 		My first reaction to this story:
Hakuin knows who he is; he is not concerned about the approval or disapproval of others.

Edda

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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/12/2007 7:36:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		It kinda' reminds me of the first story in this thread, only more in regard to others' opinions and perceptions of us, that others' perceptions can change so quickly and so independently of our choices and behaviors.  And then can shift back just as quickly.  It's fleeting and out of our control, therefore not worthy of our concern.

Lori

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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/13/2007 10:42:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's like the first story but, different!!

During the civil wars in feudal Japan, an invading army would quickly sweep into a town and take control. In one particular village, everyone fled just before the army arrived - everyone except the Zen master. Curious about this old fellow, the general went to the temple to see for himself what kind of man this master was. When he wasn't treated with the deference and submissiveness to which he was accustomed, the general burst into anger. "You fool," he shouted as he reached for his sword, "don't you realize you are standing before a man who could run you through without blinking an eye!" But despite the threat, the master seemed unmoved. "And do you realize," the master replied calmly, "that you are standing before a man who can be run through without blinking an eye?"



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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/13/2007 11:08:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Look at it this way; every one has to be somewhere.
There is a need for people to think for themselves.
We need more lerts; so,be alert!!

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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/13/2007 12:25:53 PM   
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Status: online 		Richard,
Sorry if I'm being flippant, but what you have written just takes me back to one of Spike Milligan's Goon Shows where he says, "Everyone got to be somewhere." in one of his funny voices. Unforgettable, and I often say it myself. Never fails to make me smike.  Jude

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RE: Some enlightening Zen Stories - 10/13/2007 2:50:08 PM   
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Status: online 		Standing one's ground calmly in face of an angry person disarms that person.

One psychiatrist taught us when confronted by an angry person to let that person pour out their anger, to even encourage them to spill it all. After that the angry person is sort of deflated and perhaps ready for a conversation.

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